80 The Interior Vehicle Heating Is Insufficient And The Engine Coolant Is Discolored (GROUP 80, NO. 23-12)
Reference number: GROUP 80, NO. 23-12
Supersedes refnos: 2062583/1, 2062583/2, GROUP 80, NO. 23-11
80 THE INTERIOR VEHICLE HEATING IS INSUFFICIENT AND THE ENGINE COOLANT IS DISCOLORED
TECHNICAL SERVICE BULLETIN
| AUDI: | 2012-2021 All Audi Vehicles |
| GROUP: | 80 - Heater/Ventilation |
SERVICE INFORMATION
80 23 12 2062583/2 January 17, 2023. Supersedes Technical Service Bulletin Group 80 number 21-11 dated March 19, 2021, for reasons listed below.
| Model(s) | Year | VIN Range | Vehicle-Specific Equipment |
|---|---|---|---|
| All Audi Vehicles | 2012 - 2021 | All | Not Applicable |
CONDITION
| Revision | Date | Purpose |
|---|---|---|
| 2 | - | Revised Warranty (Updated Labor Operations) |
| 1 | 03/19/2021 | Initial publication |
Customer states:
Insufficient or uneven cabin heating performance from the HVAC system. The cabin heating may be slow to get warm.
TECHNICAL BACKGROUND
The symptom can easily be duplicated. The engine coolant may contain contaminants that are visually apparent. These contaminants can obstruct the coolant flow through the heater core and diminish the cabin heating capability of the HVAC system.
PRODUCTION SOLUTION
There has been a change in the coolant standard to G12 evo.
SERVICE
Diagnosis will reveal a drastic temperature difference between the inlet and outlet heater hoses to the heater core with the inlet being warmer than the outlet suggesting an obstruction in the heater core.
Risk of scalding due to hot coolant. The cooling system is under pressure when the engine is warm. Risk of scalding due to hot steam and hot coolant.
While there may be any number of causes for insufficient cabin heating, the subject matter covered in this TSB addresses only one possible cause. Should the symptom profile be inconsistent with the root cause described in this TSB continue diagnosis to find an alternative cause.
- Examples of what the appearance of the discoloration of both the coolant as well as the coolant reservoir (Figures 1 - 4). This coolant contamination is not
engine oil or transmission fluid.
- Clean and flush the cooling system using the cooling system cleaning set, part number G 052 525 A3 as follows (Figure 5):
- Drain coolant when the engine is warm and the coolant thermostat is open according to the procedure in ElsaPro (Figure 6).
- Flush the heat exchanger(s) with water in the opposite flow direction
. Do not exceed 2 bar of water pressure (Figure 7).
- Blow the coolant out of the heat exchanger(s) in the opposite flow direction
(Figure 8).
- Add 3.0 liters of cooling system cleaner 'S' and the balance of the fill with coolant (Figure 9). Perform bleeding procedure. Run the engine for 90 minutes with this mixture with the cabin heating on full hot and HI fan. If equipped, also set the rear HVAC unit to full hot and HI fan.
- Drain the cleaning solution.
- Add 3.0 liters of neutralizer 'S' and the balance of the fill with coolant. Perform bleeding procedure (Figure 10). Run the engine for 15 minutes with this mixture with the cabin heating on full hot and HI fan. If equipped, also set the rear HVAC unit to full hot and HI fan.
- Drain the neutralizer solution.
- Fill the cooling system with plain distilled water (Figure 11). Perform bleeding procedure. Again, set the cabin heating to full hot and HI fan. If equipped, also set the rear HVAC unit to full hot and HI fan. Run the engine at approximately 2000 rpm until the cooling fans activate. Continue to run the engine at this speed for an additional 3 minutes.
- Drain the distilled water fill.
- Repeat this rinse process an additional cycle (repeat steps 13 and 14).
- Once again, drain the distilled water fill.
- If the coolant expansion tank is still discolored after the cleaning process it must be replaced (Figure 12).
- Fill the cooling system with coolant at the proper mix ratio of coolant and distilled water according to the procedure in ElsaPro (Figure 13). Perform bleeding procedure.NOTE: Do not reuse any of the cleaning and coolant solutions used during this process.
- Replace the heater core only in cases where normal cabin heating performance is not restored after performing this cleaning and flush procedure and the root cause is confirmed to be an obstructed heater core.
WARRANTY
| Claim Type: |
G10 for CPO Covered Vehicles - Verify Owner. If the vehicle is outside any warranty, this Technical Service Bulletin is informational only. |
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| Service Number: | 8023 | ||
| Damage Code: | 0016 | ||
| Labor Operations: | Drain and fill cooling system (4 x drain, fill and bleed operations) | 1938 17XX | See SRT with associated operations |
| Empty and clear out heater core, fill and clean using cooling system cleaning set (4 cylinder engines) | 8023 2999 | 160 TU | |
| Or | |||
| Empty and clear out heater core, fill and clean using cooling system cleaning set ('V' and 'W' engines) | 8023 2999 | 250 TU | |
| For vehicles that have a second heat exchanger: Empty and clear out heater core, fill and clean | 8823 2999 | 100 TU | |
| Diagnostic Time: | GFF - Checking and clearing fault codes included in existing labor operations | 0150 0000 | Time stated on the diagnostic protocol (Max 40 TU) |
| Road test prior to the service procedure | 0121 0002 | 10 TU | |
| Road test after the service procedure | 0121 0004 | 10 TU | |
| Claim Comment: | As per TSB 2062583/2 | ||
All warranty claims submitted for payment must be in accordance with the Audi Warranty Policies and Procedures Manual . Claims are subject to review or audit by Audi Warranty.
REQUIRED PARTS AND TOOLS
| Always check with your Parts Department and/or ETKA for the latest information and parts bulletins. | ||
| Part Number | Part Description | Quantity |
| See ETKA | Fasteners, Bolts, Nuts, and Screws as needed per the Repair Manual | See ETKA/ELSA |
| G052525A3 |
Cooling system cleaning set |
01 |
| See ETKA | Coolant | 30 liters |
| Tool Number | Tool Description |
|---|---|
| T10007B |
Analog Refractometer |
| VAS 6096 |
Cooling system charge kit |
| VAG 1274/X |
Adapter |
ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
All parts and service references provided in this TSB (2062583 ) are subject to change and/or removal.
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